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Harley Yeager
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On this week's episode I sit down with the multi-NDA signer / incredible actor, Harley Yeager. We discuss everything from the intricacies of artist credit in the streaming era to his time voicing a character in one of my favorite video games growing up, Tony Hawk: Pro Skater (Remastered).
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This is a cold read of the effect. I will be playing Connie and Harley Yeager will be improvising. Improvising as interested. Here we go. Let's do this.
SPEAKER_02Is this bad? I think it might be because I feel tell me what you feel.
SPEAKER_03I feel well, I feel my skin looks better. But I don't know if that's you know.
SPEAKER_02Well I mean things happen over time. Uh you you gotta just, you know, keep an eye on it. How long has it been? Is i is everything a little bit more than a little bit.
SPEAKER_03And I don't know if this is the sort of thing you want. But I think there's an effect. Oh that's the name of the deck. There's an effect. On um there's an effect.
SPEAKER_01Does it does it make you feel funny? Libido? Libido Loca.
SPEAKER_03Are you okay? Oh wait, I can't improvise. This is terrible. I have cut so much of this. Uh uh uh I've never felt this alert before.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, caffeine does that to people.
SPEAKER_03Sleep!
SPEAKER_02You could sleep right now if you want to. I feel like I might never sleep again. Well, we are in the middle of the subway, but I'll be your shoulder. You could sleep here. Right here.
SPEAKER_03You shouldn't be here.
SPEAKER_02Well I am. I love you. How are you feeling? Like I'm in love? You're sweating. Well, I mean it's with it's a hot subway. I'm cold. Oh. Well Could it be because your skin? Bursting?
SPEAKER_03I can't stop it. Something's in me, but it's like it it's it come from outside me, like having the weather inside. Huh.
SPEAKER_02That's pretty interesting. Uh do you really?
unknownI think.
SPEAKER_02No. Tristan? I'm sorry. I I just Well, do you feel different? I feel a little different now that I'm saying that I'm hot and you're cold in a hot subway, but I think I'm going to take advantage of you.
SPEAKER_03Check, please. We'll end it there. You know, though, that middle section was pretty impress was interesting because you were some of the lines you were hitting. Really? The hot you saying I'm hot was the line. Well, hey. It was very because I was like, whoa, there's something to that.
SPEAKER_02I was picking up on your vibes.
SPEAKER_03I was picking up on the temperature. Welcome to Working Class X. Hello, and welcome to the Working Class Acts Podcast. I'm your host, John Matalone. That's right. I am joined today by a guy I haven't seen in a decade, probably a little less, but we went to grads under undergrad together. Jesus. Undergrad together. Harley Yeager is an actor slash voice actor who has worked in voiceover, television, film, and theater. Notable VO work includes the anime mobile suit Gundam GQ on Prime Video. I have auditioned for those too. Yeah, I have. Um video games like Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 through 4 remastered. Shut the fuck up. That's like my childhood. No joke. I played those games way too much as a kid. And he is a major villain in a major video game that we can't even talk about. That's how big it is. Isn't that fine? So everyone just shut the fuck up. He's also been on shows like The Blacklist, Jessica Jones, happy, and Evil Lives Here. I have a beautiful talented fiance. I'm reading it from his perspective. I've sabotaged it. Now imagine me as Harley. I have a beautiful talented fiance who's also an actor. And we have two incredible cats. Oh my god, we're talking about the cats. So incredible, they're tattooed on my arm. They are proof. Show that to the camera. Look at that. Shit. Either. They're both recording.
SPEAKER_02You're my babes.
SPEAKER_03I love it. And when I, Harley, have time to kill, I'll be spending time with them playing video games, Magic the Gathering, or DND. Coming up, Harley, has an indie and sci-fi thriller movie that he worked on that's starting the festival submitting process, another video game that you'll have to stay tuned to hear about. Because this guy's signing all kinds of NDAs. I, Harley. Also started working working for a Long Island theater company called the Strongbox Theater that just opened in East Rockaway. I'm here with Harley Yeager, folks. I'm happy to be here. Oh, he's here. Harley.
SPEAKER_02How are you doing, man? I'm doing so good. I'm I'm just so stoked to be here.
SPEAKER_03See you after all this time. I know, dude. I mean, this has been the best excuse for me to see people I haven't seen in ages and see how they're doing. And like, it sounds like things are going awesome for you, dude. Yeah, I'm really cool.
SPEAKER_02I'm excited with what's been happening the last couple of years. Nice, man. Where are you originally from, Harley? I'm originally from South Hampstead. Uh I went to Rockville Center schools. Nice. Uh so I got a little bit of the like best worlds of South Hempstead being a little bit more blue collar and Rockville Center. It's a very white collar. Um so I got to, you know, experience both ends of you know, humbleness. But also what everybody else has, which not everybody else does. Got you. Long island.
SPEAKER_03Long island. You've been a Long Island guy. Do you think do you feel yourself going anywhere else? Or do you feel like Long Island? It's just home for you.
SPEAKER_02You know, I have thought about going to LA like a couple times. Yeah, I think like even during college, that was a big like, you know what? I'm gonna buy a bus. And I'm gonna re-perpost. Yeah, buy a bus. Make it into one of those cool homes with my friends and out to LA and then I'll stay there. Yeah. And then I was like, you know what? I got an agent here. I started working here. Yeah, and I just got so comfortable. And I I like being close to my family. I think that's like a really big part of it. Is like I don't love being away from my family for long periods of time. I'm happy to travel, I'm happy to do things like that. But like I think that's the real thing that has kept me.
SPEAKER_03Expensive to travel now. Holy fucking hell, yeah. Yeah. But uh well, you were just saying earlier when you got here that you were meeting up with your agent. Yeah. And we it used to be one of my agents. Yeah. Um, so uh that that's been great. How long have you been working with uh people over at DVS?
SPEAKER_02Since graduation, I could yeah. I did the uh the actor showcase a senior year, which was really awesome. And um one day I was I was actually subletting uh Chris Trindade's apartment city. And one of my past roommates. Yeah, another good actor. Also with Peter. Uh oh, is he really? I didn't know that. But that's great. So I subletted for a while and I was there, and then one day I just got an email and uh it was for a Transformers like kids show, and I was like, Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay, cool. Why not? Yeah. I mean, that's like voiceover is such is such a great uh it's just such a great avenue. There's so much opportunity in it right now. Um that was one of the first uh things that I did, like getting into voiceover when I graduated too from undergrad. It was it's just such a fun experience to go in the room and just get to play characters that you would never get to play in a million years because of how insane they are and like how they're designed or whatever.
SPEAKER_02Just be anybody. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I mean, you were auditioning to be a robot alien thing. That's how much I know about Transformers.
SPEAKER_02Right. Dude, it's like it's just so fun to be able to like have the opportunity, even with you know, a post-pandemic world, to be able to do your work from your house.
SPEAKER_03So true, yes. And send it out, which is a blessing and a curse in itself. Totally.
SPEAKER_02Because you know, the blessing is yeah, the conveniency of you can basically the timing of getting auditions is great.
SPEAKER_03You can schedule your time. You can mess it up.
SPEAKER_02Dude, even today, heading to uh my voiceover agent, I forgot that they sent me an email for an audition. So I'm heading there and I'm just like, I can't make an excuse. I'm about to see that. So I was just like, I totally miss this. I'm sorry, I'll uh do when I get home later.
SPEAKER_03So you grew up in Long Island. When did you get the proverbial bug? When did it bite you?
SPEAKER_02I think always. I think since I discovered Power Rangers. Really? Yeah. Big Power Rangers guy. I loved Power Rangers so much to the point that I would not be anything else for Halloween. I was always the Red Ranger every year. I think one day I just left. Very true. My parents did not. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03We gotta buy another fucking Power Ranger costume. God damn it. All of the toys. I was a big Power Ranger fan too when I was a kid.
SPEAKER_02It was so fun. So fun. Now, like I didn't even know this, but like I didn't know that it was originally another show from Japan. Oh, really? That was super Sentai, and then all of the stuff that you saw of them fighting was an actual other show that they repurposed for their show and then cast American actors and then used all the scenes that way. So like it's them dubbing, and that's like wait, so all of American Power Rangers is just dubbing. I think so.
SPEAKER_03For the most part when it comes to like in the full costume. That's actually kind of brilliant, right? When you think about it. Like in terms of like oh, yeah, just we can bring it over there so easy. All we have to do is refilm when they're not in their costumes. Yeah, if I'm wrong, I'm so sorry. If we're wrong, we should do this. It's a really good way to like get a bunch of uh shows out there. 100%. I love that. Um so I'm I'm trying to think of a way to like segue into what we were talking about before because I thought this conversation was super interesting. I'm trying to do the show a little differently. Um but we were talking, you you just you worked on this big video game, a project. It is a video game, and you're playing a villain in it. You can't talk about it, even though it's out right now. Even though it's out and it's a thing. Which is really bizarre. Yeah. Um can we mention what can we mention about this? Like, what's the easiest way for you to talk about this where you don't get in trouble, but you can at least uh discuss the experience because it's very unique.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so so so you get an audition, it has a code name.
SPEAKER_03Sure.
SPEAKER_02Um, most things, like I feel like a lot of big projects, even Gundam, like that was under a code name. Totally. Um so you get this thing, and I won't say even the code name. I'll just it was just got a code name. It was cool. It's impossible. And then they they sent you a sound alike, and they were like, this is what we're emulating, try to sound like that. Yes, yes. So um I didn't even know what it was when I did it. So uh, but I ended up getting uh put on hold for that, which is really cool. Which is like hold is saying that we're you're considered, but it doesn't mean you're you're gonna get the part. So undecided just yet. Yeah, I feel like it's a range of let's say like five to ten people they're probably considering, and then they're kind of checking dates to be like, hey, it's be available.
SPEAKER_03It's the final step before booking. Right. A potential booking.
SPEAKER_02Yes. So I got put on hold and uh I ended up booking it, which is really, really cool. That's fucking awesome. And uh so I got to record and it was one of the best experiences that you go in person to the studio. That's the really cool thing is being able to do something from home and then actually being able to still go into a studio because I I get so nervous being at home, especially with like Source Connect and things like that. Because what if Wi-Fi goes out and we have gardeners? That's the worst gardeners, man.
SPEAKER_03The internet connection thing for callbacks and or or just jobs, yeah. In particular for voiceover, where like internet can go out. Like it's just such a it's such a there's nothing you can do. There's nothing you can do about it too, and it sort of it puts you in a position to have to spend more. Like it's it's a little discriminatory in a way when you think about individuals who are on the lower socioeconomic scale, like if they can't afford better internet or they're trying to break into this industry and they have talent, and they have to build a studio and they have to build a studio now. Yeah, it's like there's so many upsides and a lot of downsides, a lot of downsides, and that's why I like going in person because you don't have to be responsible for any of that shit, and you can get direction, which I'm sure is so lovely. Face people reality.
SPEAKER_02Remember reality? Being a person, do you remember that? Are you here? I recall reality. I have you there, you're there. Oh my god!
SPEAKER_03It burns!
SPEAKER_02No, I have been playing Power World a lot, so I have not been in reality. What's that? It's dumb.
SPEAKER_03But it's is it like a mindless game? No.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no.
SPEAKER_03I guess but like trust me, I play mindless games too. It's not to judge.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. You know Minecraft? Yeah. You know Elden Ring? Yeah. You know Grand Theft Auto? Yeah. Imagine all of that put together. What? Yeah. Wait, where is this game? This game has been in like Lawsuit Hell uh POW World.
SPEAKER_03Oh, PAL World. Yes, it's a Pokemon with guns. I thought it was like a I don't know. Um Yes, okay, I don't know a lot about it, but I've heard of it. It's like Pokemon with guns. That is so weird. This country's weird.
SPEAKER_02Dude, yeah. You you find a pal, you but it's like Minecraft in the way of you start with nothing, you punch a tree, you get a stick, you make a stick, you make a crafting table, and all of a sudden now you're building like Pokeballs. Sure, sure. And then you find a pal out in the wild, and you can have a like a whole base where you build things, and then you have your pals, so if it's a fire type, it will do the furnace. It's like a gun electro. Yeah, they're all animals. Okay. I have put in the last maybe three weeks, 120 hours into this game. So I've not been in reality. That's 40 hours. Uh, it's a week. That's a job. It's a job. I Sarah, my fiance, has been doing a full-on play in his worst like three three plays in one big like festival has been memorizing, and this has been my my advantage. And you're just like, I caught another one, baby. Literally, I caught another one, baby. Memorizing lines. I'm like, Sarah, look at this guy. He's got flames. He flies. Looks like it's like.
SPEAKER_03I'm trying to learn Shakespeare, you motherfucker.
SPEAKER_02Well, my God.
SPEAKER_03I love that. Dude, I I'm not one to talk though, because I've been I've been playing GTA online recently, getting ready for the new GTA 6 that's coming out. It looks phenomenal. It looks so cool. Um, did you get to audition for that or anything? Or I I don't know. I know I auditioned for I feel like I probably have. Yes. So going back to the discussion we were having, the code name thing, I definitely feel like I auditioned for like maybe six characters in this one because the dialogue was just so specific. Like that sort of satirical, like hyperbolic, yeah, bizarre American conversations. Like it just the craziest characters, but are grounded in that you know, the American satire. Like grounded in reality, but like still larger than life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, God, I wish I really wanted to book one of those so badly. That was like two years ago now, or something that I think. Probably I'm trying to remember what the code name was for it, but uh I can talk about it all I want because I didn't have to decide fucking shit. Yeah, exactly. Um I guess going back to that discussion, if if there's anything more you can talk about it. Um, you're right. So um I tangent, I'm so sorry. No, dude, I'm the same way.
SPEAKER_02The exact same way. I do the project. I record. Yes. It went, it goes really well. Yes. The people that I work with enjoyed it as well. The developers, like the director, like everybody said I did a really great job, and uh they even had a moment where they're like, all right, when can we uh tell Harley when he can uh announce this? Even the people in the room are like this guy talk about a bit when he can. We're like, yeah, so when uh when can he do it? Because we hope he does, because he did such a great job. And I'm like, well, thanks. And then they're like, well, once you see that the character's out and the game is out, not a trailer, not that, like it's out and you can play it, then we'll talk about it. Uh-huh. And I was like, cool. So that happened, came out, saw it, wrote up a nice little posted, and then I get an email just going, take down everything right now.
SPEAKER_03It is one of those things when like you start getting those projects where it's like, oh, there's a little more name recognition to this. Where you kind of do have to like you just gotta sort of play the game. I don't I hate that I just said that. I'm not saying that actually. But uh, I'm not saying that. I'm saying more of just like sometimes there are certain decisions that you just are not in control of. It feels to me too, like that this is just becoming like people who are not actors within the industry who have like who are producers or people who like own the like uh intellectual property rights to things, I don't think like people who have not come from it from the actor side, but are offering jobs to actors, I don't think they I I feel like there's been a loss of consideration for what getting you know clips and reels to these actors really means for us. It's not a vanity thing. I mean it part of it. I mean part of it, part of it is. You have to go and say, I've worked on these projects, it's a big project, I know how to work under that pressure, and therefore it this should uh credit me towards other jobs at this level. Yeah. And when you hit when you first hit that level, when it's new, which uh maybe it was for you, I don't know. But it it's like, oh god, I want people to know I've done this so that they can see I am ready.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, to be fair, it's uh not even fair, it's unfair. Uh to be unfair, companies just don't really and look, this isn't all companies, obviously. It's not everybody, but like I feel like a lot of businesses, once the project is done, they don't even really reach out to the voice actors after it's done. You know. Oh, oh, oh, yeah. Trust me, I know that. I had uh uh for Tony Hawk. I that was another codename. Uh that was the first. I can talk about Tony Hawking rad.
SPEAKER_03I played those games uh so me and my brother played those games so much as a kid that is so cool that you gotta be a part of the remaster. And I think my brother, wait, no, my brother did get me the remaster, and I have yet to play it! I am an asshole! Wait, no, things are falling apart. I got too excited. My studio is falling apart. Where is it? Tony Hawk's. Oh, is this the remaster? I don't know. Is this? Yeah. This is it? That's it. Fuck yeah, it's one and two. Shut the fuck up, folks. God, no. I am screwing everything up. It's raw. Oh my god. It's raw. This is raw. Dude, he's in this motherfucking game. Look at this motherfucker right here. That is really cool. That's so awesome. I love like love this game growing up. It was me and my brother loved it so much. And now I'm definitely gonna fucking play it tonight.
SPEAKER_02I am the custom voice one. When you make a custom skater, uh dude. There's top of the voice options, and there's one and two, and I play voice one. So all the like, ha, ha ha, bro, I cannot wait to play this and just have you like run into walls or something.
SPEAKER_03Oh, literally, that's when you'll hear it the most.
SPEAKER_02So and then you'll hear me say a couple lines as um a taxi driver in the New York map in this one. So if you're in New York and you get hit by a cab, you might every once in a while hear like, 10 points. Like, oh my god. So, like, that was a funny project because it was called Meatball. That was their code name. Meatball.
SPEAKER_03It's interesting because the code name, I don't know, actually. Like, some code names feel like seem a little like it. A little, and some is just and then some are just like whatever is the most fucking random thing. Yeah. Uh meatball. Meatball. Code name.
SPEAKER_02Doesn't matter. So I got a thing for Meatball. It wasn't even an aud. It didn't even feel like an audition. It was just like a guy being like, hey, could I get like a cup of coffee? Yeah, no, later work's gonna be really tough. Yeah. And that was the audition. And I was just kind of like that felt so real right now. I was like, this guy's good. And then like I think months went by, and then uh my agent reached out and was like, You're being considered for meatball. Can you show up to Albany? I know that might be a little bit. Yeah. Oh my god, my home.
SPEAKER_03They're like, you have to sell near my home. That's I mean Borisville's where in front, but Albany is the closest known city.
SPEAKER_02I had to drive three hours. Uh I self-reported. I was like, yeah, I'll be there. I don't know what meatball is, but I'm a video game? Okay. If this thing's shooting in fucking Tokyo, I'm getting 100%. I'm going. Yeah. Like, dude, I would kill to do Bang Zoom like auditions for uh anime and stuff. Oh, fuck you. And they're mostly in LA. Yeah. But I would literally go into debt to just fly out there, make negative money, and come back and do the project.
SPEAKER_03You know, like some of the there are certain projects where you would do that. Anything involving Neil Druckmann I'm putting it out there. Neil Druckmann, I will not, no joke, I will work for you for free. I don't want to work for free. I would like to pay him a little bit. But man, if I could work with you, dude, on whatever your next video game is or television project, put me in there, dude. Love your work. Last of Us. Beautiful. Amazing. So good. That's so cool. So you have you been getting this work through your agent. Your agent now? That is amazing.
SPEAKER_02That was actually a pre pre pre-pandemic. So I did uh I didn't do much. You did this one a while ago. This was so long ago. Wow.
SPEAKER_03This was almost like is it nine years? I mean, it's gotta be. It's over six.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think this was like nine years ago, maybe. No, maybe six, seven. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I just realized what you did. Six seven. That's I'm sorry. Anyway. Silly. So you didn't even, I don't even think you did. Was that a bit? That was just organic six seven. Just a little bit of stinning.
SPEAKER_02Um, but yeah, so I I went up, I got up there, I recorded for 15 minutes. It was vigor. It was it was literally a bunch of grints from like Ollie, small, medium, large. But then you skimmed your knees, small, medium, large, and then they did the taxi, like, why don't you try a little of this, a little of this? And they were like, thanks. Fucking rad. I'll head home now. I got a slice of pizza, and then I was like, all right, four hours home.
SPEAKER_03Jesus, wow. Um, but that's the thing with video games. Like, when like they're huge, like animation or video game or anything that's just voiceover, like uh with the exception of audiobooks, the job seems so short. It's so short. So short because they're it's unless you're doing like maybe a television animation series where there's like a dialogue and like big scenes, like a lot of it is just you go in the booth, here are your lines, here's maybe they'll give you a little like this is what's going on before, so you have some context, but then you just say them, and that's it. Yeah, I've found five variations.
SPEAKER_02They just give you the page and you're like, just say when it's time. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's wild. It's scary, and like it's good training because it throws you into trouble. Yes, it really does. I mean, going back to cold read, you know, it really does point out like that is a skill you will use in vo in voiceover in this field so much. Yeah. Where it's just like, you're given the dialogue, do it. Do it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like there's no time. Dude, it's it's cool. It's um Tony Hawk was uh was a cool project because they they they told me kind of what it was when I was there because they were like it's for escape. So you still didn't know even then. No, no, they didn't even tell me. It's so weird.
SPEAKER_03They want this stuff so closed mouth. They want to be in control of all of like what gets put out there.
SPEAKER_02And I get I get it. I don't think I signed an NDA for that one. Maybe I did. I don't think I did. We'll find out when this comes out. Well, this game's been out for a while. This one's been out for a while. So, like, then then what's funny enough is like so I recorded that project, and that and a uh a live-action dub of a zombie series. Oh, fun. Uh it was called Reality Z. It was basically there was this show uh it was this British show that was a zombie show, and I forgot what it's called, but it's basically that show exactly.
SPEAKER_03And it's about zombie outbreak on a reality TV show. Yeah, reality TV show. I I watched part of that. Oh, really? Yeah, and it was an interesting concept. It was goofy, it's very goofy.
SPEAKER_02But and yeah, so they made a video game out of that? No, no, so this was actually just a live action. Uh they made a Brazilian version of that series. And they added extra like episodes. So I played the main guy. Uh like the the English voice.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, that's so cool, dude.
SPEAKER_02That was such a cool experience for dubbing, especially eventually doing anime, because it it's the hardest thing to do is live action dubbing. Because I bet. It's you know you gotta time it. You have to time it, and especially when the language is different than English. Sure, yeah, some one you're not used to. It's not your language. The syncopation of the lips are vi are a lot different. So like you have to sometimes write the change the the text slightly of the trans like out of the translation so it fits for the the timing of things. Yeah, yeah. And they do that with anime too, but like, you know, anime, the mouth goes like this. There's no like you don't see them going like moving being a person. So like doing a live action was so interesting because you'd have to watch the character do things like even like going like this and going like or like breathing in the street. Those little things.
SPEAKER_03All of it has to be dubbed. All of it. Even if it's not in like uh any language, just grunts. Wow, interesting.
SPEAKER_02All of it. Very interesting. So like, and this was a zombie thing. So later in the episodes, it's it's literally moments of like me taking like a like a crowbar and like putting it through a zombie's head, so I'd be like, Fuck yeah, you know, trying to copy precise. And that was so it was this project and Tony Hawk. They were both happening at like about the exact same time. Wow. And it was right was happening. Oh my god. New York was just starting to get hit. So I went to Albany, I came back, I think maybe a week later. No, no, I recorded, I recorded Reality Z week one. I went to do Tony Hawk. I came back, recorded more of Reality Z in one day because I was about to go to Amsterdam, and they were like, we need you for a couple episodes. And I was like, I told you guys I was going to Amsterdam, and I'm going like, so they're like, okay, so this day and this day, we're gonna do like 10-hour days, and you're gonna blast through all these shit. I was like, alright, cool. So we did that. I left for Amsterdam, pandemic hit while you're in Amsterdam. While I'm in Amsterdam, Jesus. I'm having a good time, you know, not really thinking about it too much. Well, actually, no, that's not true. Sarah was more less concerned than I was, and then it kind of flipped towards the end uh because you're like, oh shit, this isn't very real. Yeah, I was more concerned because I was like seeing it happen in New York. I was looking at all like the data on the phones, and I was telling my parents, I'm like, don't go outside. Grab your toilet paper, wash it down.
SPEAKER_03Was anything happening in Amsterdam?
SPEAKER_02Not yet. It was a little bit. So like when we got there. A little COVID. It was when it like, I think it hit China, then it went to Spain and Italy. Yeah. So when we were in Amsterdam, it was in Italy, and New York was starting to get a little bit of it. That that that hit, and that everybody was already taking toilet paper in New York. So we got to see what was happening. Yeah. So we escaped. We flew away, and then we're in Amsterdam. We go to the supermarket day one. It's a supermarket. You know, it's got all of the food that you need, toilet paper, everything. It's there. Day seven of Amsterdam goes to New York. Ghost Town. To the point where I remember a guy walking, maybe he was like an unhoused person, but he was walking, going mumbling to himself, going, it's the end of the world. It's the end of the world. And I'm like, that's the strange part of me was excited because I'm like, I'm in anime movie. This feels like I'm in a cool sci-fi movie.
SPEAKER_03I mean, look, I don't deny there were uh when the pandemic was going on, there were some days, you know, you just had to get out and just like I would go for bike rides. Very, very sparingly. I did this. Um, but I have footage and photos of Times Square. Oh, crazy. During that time when I was just doing a mental health I need a bike ride, and it was the weirdest thing in the world in broad daylight to be in a space where there is usually thousands upon thousands of people, and there were I think I saw two people. The city that never sleeps. Oh, it was it was sleeping then. Except for three of us me and two, whoever those two other people were. I was like, hi. Wasn't even saying hi. I was like, ooh, stay away from me. Stay away. Um but it's yeah, that was a bizarre time.
SPEAKER_02Oh, one cool. What's um MobileSuit Gundam uh is an anime.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yes, that I auditioned for this definitely a couple times. Is it through um NYAV Post? Yes, I got on that list ages ago. Yeah, I don't remember how, but every so often they throw those my way, and I'm like, these are cool and fun. Yeah, I've not booked one since. Wait, can you tell me like any tips? Yeah, 100%. I would love to.
SPEAKER_02Reality Z was with NYAV Post. That's when I worked with them for the first time. And I went to Amsterdam, I did the project. Pandemic hit, and I got in touch with them, probably similarly. Like I got in their email chain, so they were able to send me out some auditions, and uh I realized that they did anime at the time too, that and that they were working on the strictly anime, I feel like. And uh one of the guys who's super nice there, Clark, was just like, yeah, we've got uh another project coming out, and um you know you might be right for that. Yeah. I think I auditioned for them so many times. Yeah, yeah. So many times over the la over the next five years, and you know, it's it's a hard thing to have to tell yourself that it's like it's not you, or is it you, or is it not you?
SPEAKER_03But it's it's like it's also it's a numbers game. It's a numbers game.
SPEAKER_02And I think it's a trust thing too, is like the more you book, the more I think someone goes like, oh, he's worked on a game before. He'll probably do fine with here with this.
SPEAKER_03Also, anime dubbing is so it is such a specific voiceover form. Yeah. Because it's not it, it's its own style. It's so you know, like there's a different way you use your voice for that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's different like just like in acting, there are like it's you know, all in all, it's acting is acting, and and the the truth is there, they want truth more than anything, more than an anime voice, but I think a lot of the voice comes from the particularness of Japanese language, the the the syncopation uh syncopation of the words and the lips and the lip flaps. The pitch even within language is incredibly important. I feel like in Japan are so much more, I don't want to say more well-trained, but the training there is so much more for that type of craft of voice acting. Yeah. And they're doing it in their own language, which means they get to actually act their heart out in the way that works for them. And where you're dubbing, you're you have you have to be restricted by what the other actor has done.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah. Taking over that part and being like, okay, I have to, it has to match the level that they're at. It has to match the bigger. It's just interesting because there's almost this like, ugh, like there's like this I don't know how to describe it. You know what I mean? Like the the anime, sort of like there's a melodrama to it uh and a flourish in a way, I feel like.
SPEAKER_02It's so much in your breath. Yes, it really is. It's so much either it's the like I'm just an anime guy who just is kind of talking to myself. It's just a little these are my inner thoughts.
SPEAKER_03Or if there's something big happening, yeah. Oh no!
SPEAKER_02And I think a lot of that too, with with culture of of of Japan and America's has those differences. Uh, where when I was talking with um uh oh my god, when I was talking with the director, uh Michael, um uh he mentioned that uh I did a class with him one time. Like they do sometimes workshops and YAV posts to like drunk. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that. But there are some that they have done uh like just are they bait? They're here in the New York and in California. Oh, okay. I was gonna say I was like, they they hang out mostly in California and then they they have people in New York that they do their work from. Gotcha, gotcha. But uh one thing that he mentioned when I was doing uh uh actually it was cool. We did a text for something I've already auditioned for, so I chose to do the same thing I auditioned for to see like how it goes. And what he mentioned was like there's something about professing your love to people that in Japan is a little bit different. There is an emotioness to it that that uh an emotioness, there's an emotion to it that comes from uh a place of like I'm I'm putting my heart straight out on the plate for you. Yeah, so it's that moment of going like it is fully. I'm in love with you. You know, like that that is a thing that is not easy to to to capture, and I think it could be so easily satirized and like parodied, which is why I think people try to say, stay away from doing like the anime voice.
SPEAKER_03That's so fascinating. It's almost Shakespearean in a way, yeah. In that, like what they're saying is what they believe and mean 100%. And like, unless they've told you otherwise, they're set they're telling you the truth, the full and honest truth.
SPEAKER_02That's something with anime that it took me a while to grasp growing up, because you know, like sometimes in shows you watch something and they're like, it's a mystery, and someone's like, What do you think that could be? It's like, well, it could be because of this. Yeah, but you're in your head, you're all like, well, it isn't, because it's the beginning of the act, and they're gonna find out that that's not actually it. But they're since an anime when they're like, it must be something like this. That's probably it. Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's they're like I wonder if it's the flux capacitor going at full speed at 100%. Yeah, it is. Yeah, that's that's what it is.
SPEAKER_03Definitely it. This is back to the future, definitely. The flux capacitor you just threw in there. I love that. This is Lipton Classics, folks. This is where we go through the classic ten questions that James Lipton used to ask at the end of the Inside the Actor's Studio. May he rest in peace. Uh, and these were originally devised by the French journalist Bernard Pivot. And uh, we're gonna start with those questions right now. There's ten of them. And the first question, you ready, Harley? I am ready. All right, here we go. First question is what is your favorite word? You can take your time. I will cut out so much hair. Don't worry. Everybody does it.
SPEAKER_02It's gonna be so stupid.
SPEAKER_03It it's people either go with like meaning or like how it t or tastes. It's chicken. Is it chicken?
SPEAKER_02Chicken's my word. Do you know why? I would love to know. It's not necessarily because the word chicken sounds good. It's because I was gonna say, I thought you were gonna say because chicken tastes good. It's because it's either chicken or taco. And it has nothing to do with me enjoying either. It just has to do with whenever I make up shit that is like as a kid, just random words, improv. It would always come down to like chicken taco. Where or like chicken, you you know, I have no idea what you're talking about. It's just the word if you were to think about like a word that comes to your mind first. Here's what I'll say. That's my word.
SPEAKER_03You know what it is? It was the first thing that popped in my head. Fair enough. But you know what? Chicken, chicken looks like a chicken. You know what I mean? So it's like something by just like, yeah, I don't know why. It's a bizarre word, but I'm like, yeah, you're a that's a chicken. That's a chicken. It's a weird little chicken. You know, yeah. The more I keep saying it, it it sounds crazy.
SPEAKER_02The word chicken. You say anything enough times, and of course, like purple.
SPEAKER_03Purple enough becomes you know what? That one's the exception to the rule. Also, my freaking computer is making so much noise. Um uh chicken. Chicken. I'll go, let's do it. Yeah. Um, second question. What is your least favorite word?
SPEAKER_02Not chicken.
SPEAKER_03Not chicken. Least favorite word, probably. Probably, probably. Is it like uh just because you don't like you do you not like wishy-washiness? I hate wishy-washiness. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I don't like, especially even like in politics, like when you see people being like, it's probably about a thousand dollars, or there's probably the this big thing that's gonna be happening that affects you. Yeah, you're like, oh, probably that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03He'll probably do this, he'll probably do that. Well, when you mentioned taco before, I thought maybe that was political. And I was like, I'm all for it.
SPEAKER_02I I do love taco.
SPEAKER_03But that's a good one, probably. That's a good one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03What turns you on? This doesn't have to be sexual.
SPEAKER_02We both looked at each other.
SPEAKER_03I was just like, I should clarify.
SPEAKER_02What turns me on?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it can be anything. Anything that like just engages the mind. Or the loins.
SPEAKER_02I like I like this. Uh like you know conversation. Good conversation. I love I you know what it's because I don't love to I love to talk, but I don't love to talk to everybody. You know what I mean? Sure, I probably get that job and I work, you know, a lot of hours and I work early hours and I'm dealing with Rockwell Center. Yeah. Yeah. And as I was saying, how there's that like there's this. Is that a mall? I'm sorry, I'm not gonna be a big thing. Rockville Center is a town. Like Rockwell Center, yes. Garden City, you know, Garden City. Of course. You know the vibe of Garden City? Yeah. It's imagine that, but lawyers instead of dark.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I like Garden City. It's like it's peaceful. Or at least last time I was there, it's been a little while.
SPEAKER_02I love Rockville Center. If you're watching this and I am your barista, I love you probably, maybe. Probably. Maybe. Oh, I am done. But uh I think you've gained the truth of actually what I I I don't I don't love talking to everybody. I get that. It's not it's not fun, especially when you're just I for a person that I think I'm very social, but I'm also antisocial.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I can be very happy being alone.
SPEAKER_03But when I find a person that I feel uh like a spark of mutual interest, like really strong passionate mutual interest. Yeah, there's nothing better.
SPEAKER_02And to be honest, I don't feel this with many people. Sure. So the fact that, like, I you know thanks, babe. I love you, man. I love you, babe. I really genuinely like I get nervous about all things, including even this. Coming here, I'm just like, gotta make sure I say the right thing. Or like, what if I uh what if I'm standing weird? What if I'm weird?
SPEAKER_03Buddy, don't worry. Dude, I I suffer with anxiety and depression. I take medication for it. I totally get it. Is it raw dogging? Dude, if if you're ever, you know, ever feeling like you need it, like, go for it. It it really does help a lot. Okay. It really does. Um, not not to, you know, I'm no one's doctor or therapist here, but you know, I found like I went through grad school with that level of anxiety and depression going on. It was really difficult. I got a lot out of it, but it I also realized like I just put a lot of pressure to be good on this thing. And it's the quickest way to like just kill it for yourself. And fall out of love with it. Fall out of love with it, and also just like you won't it it's harder to book that way. Yeah, you know, it's uh it's it's much harder. Um not that I'm saying that's that's where you're at, but that was something I experienced having.
SPEAKER_02If you hold sand in your hand, yeah gently, yeah, it will stay there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03If you hold it really tight, it's gonna fall through the cracks. That's a great metaphor. Yeah. Thanks, mom. Is that a mom ism? That's from my mom. I don't know if she came up with it, but that's that's so true. Yeah, it's really true. Um what turns you off? You'll see a pattern to these questions.
SPEAKER_02I I think like and this even like I guess is on myself.
SPEAKER_03Um I don't like phoniness. Oh, we got a Holden Caulfield in our mo or in our midst. I get that no, I feel that, man. Yeah, being a phony. You know, I'm gonna do it. Put on a mask to sort of appease others.
SPEAKER_02Right. Yeah. But not even just to appease others, but just like the vibe of just feeling like a person is doing something that is not genuine. Yeah. Um, even if it's, you know, just conversation. You know, and I try to, when I talk to people, even customers, like I don't want to ever fall for the the cynicism that I think you know befalls most people working minimum wage jobs, which is that like I fucking hate everybody. Yeah. And every person that comes in, you're just gonna ruin my day. And now my day's ruined, and I I just need to get through this day. And it's like, that's time, that's your life, that's like that you're wasting. So it's I I've learned to try to just I don't know, kill people with kindness, or yeah, and and I've even found like some of the people I dislike the most that are my customers love me now because of the fact that I have just tried to be nice to them because you never know, you know, what people are going through and things like that. So true, man. So like to see a person just doing all of the motions and like the like how to win friends and influence others, and you could tell they just read that book is like and you're just like they're new. Hi, how's it going? Brian, did you say Brian? Yeah, nice to meet you, Brian.
SPEAKER_03And you're just like they're just like using every toolbox, like tool in the toolbox of like how to be sociable instead of just like allowing it to be a free. Just like acting, yeah, just being like a person.
SPEAKER_02You could do all the steps, but if you're not putting like yourself in the role, it's just gonna sound like you're copying someone else.
SPEAKER_03I mean, that was like one of the biggest reasons why I went to grad school, I feel like, because I felt that I was good at constructing character, but I wasn't necessarily good at bringing myself to the character. Me too. And it's like creating character is great, that is a skill, and like is necessary if you want to do character stuff. And but at the end of the day, if there's no authenticity living behind this curated map. As beautiful as it may be and interesting as it may be, it's it's gonna fall short. A hundred percent. Uh authenticity. It's it really is like it goes a long way. It's interesting, and I think a a couple of people have given a similar answer to that about like, yeah, people being like not uh yeah, just authenticity.
SPEAKER_02And I honestly turned off all that criticism towards it because I sometimes I I'm trying to work on it, but I feel like even myself I've felt inauthentic. And I think felt that thus far, if that's anything you can. I I don't feel it now. Yeah. Um, but I guess growing up, you want to be cool, you wanna you wanna say the right things. Of course. So I was always a yes man. I always just kind of wanted people I didn't want to make waves. I would just listen to what people said and I'd kind of just yes and agree.
SPEAKER_03Not a lot. Yeah, I feel you, man.
SPEAKER_02And it's just not, you know, it doesn't work. You can't make true friends until you finally start saying your opinions. And you also hear them go, I don't agree with that. Yeah. And you have to learn to, you know, how to communicate that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And how to do that without it turning into like a fight or yeah, or like creating such a divide that just doesn't help us live next to each other with more ease, you know. Um is your favorite curse word?
SPEAKER_02Twat. Twat! Twat's a good one.
SPEAKER_03I think that's the first what time anyone said twat. Hell yeah. I was bugger shit, but that's easy. It's easy. Fuck is you know, fuck is universal, but twat is good.
SPEAKER_02Twat twat. It sounds better with an accent. Like, do you know what's going on? Oh, well, do you remember Misfits?
SPEAKER_03Misfits. It was you know what's I feel like I sometimes mix that's a British show, right? It's a British show. I saw I think I sometimes mix that one up with weekenders. The weekenders? Was it the weekenders? Is it about a group of kids?
SPEAKER_02Or high schools kind of like uh ish. Uh what's the the in-betweeners? The in betweeners. That's it. So in betweeners. Yeah. Show is so that they fucking silly. Uh this was a show about um, it's right up. It's just my alley. Superheroes, fantasy, I love it. So it's it's about a bunch of people that are in community service that get struck by lightning and gain powers. Oh. And they uh they don't become superheroes, they just live as they would, but but with powers. Interesting. So like they accidentally kill their probation worker and they have to cover up the body, and then like that happens multiple times. What a bizarre. Dude, it's so good. But you gotta watch this. You know Umbrella Academy?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. You know the guy who plays. I mean I haven't watched it, but I I know I know enough of it too.
SPEAKER_02Robert, fuck, I'm forgetting his name, but he plays I think his name was Curtis. Was he on that show? He's on that show. On both, yeah. He's in Misfits as well. He plays Nathan in Misfits. He's like, I've I've started with powers, my career will continue with powers. Yes. He's got an Irish accent, and I just love when he would just go, twat.
SPEAKER_03I love it. So that's my what sound or noise do you love? A cat's purr. Dude. I agree. Yeah. I uh I accidentally deleted my cat's purr from my phone. I I'm I'm pretty sure I have not been able to find it. And it's one of those things that I'm like, wow, if I could get any audio file back, I it would be that one. I miss it. I miss him so much. But yeah, it's it's a it's a really soothing sound. And when it's your own cat, man, it's a different level, isn't it? It's just a different level of peace. That makes me want to like just take my microphone up to all of them. Oh my god, dude. I mean, we what let's do that. Let's create a look just a series called Caps Purs.
SPEAKER_02It's like a mini podcast of the podcast.
SPEAKER_0330-second clips of just all the different purrs of cats. So relaxing. That would be relaxing. One of them is just like what sound or noise do you hate?
SPEAKER_02I've a bunch, but I have two. You name a couple. Two I'm thinking of. Um, I hate the sound of leaf blowers. Really? Yeah. They are annoying, aren't they? I hate it just one because of voiceover, because anytime that I'm sitting in my house. So you have an association to it. I'm just, I'm trying to get something done. And I'm in this hot ass closet. I feel my booth is right there, by the way.
SPEAKER_03I'll show it to you later. Yeah. But yeah, it this is the hardest time of the year, too, for it. It's the sweat, and because it's summertime, more people are outside doing that kind of yard work. So it's like very residential areas. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So like all of a sudden you just hear, and I'm just like, it is yeah, that's a great answer. I'm sure a lot of voiceover people will hear. It's that and there's this sound. And I Sarah thinks I'm crazy, so I need to bring it up. Please. There's a sound in some houses in front of a house that when you pass or walk by it or drive by it, you'll hear this very high-pitched sound.
SPEAKER_03From a house.
SPEAKER_02From a house. Just walk away. Like, you know that mosquito sound? Like, you know, like you would hear like the sound to some like convenience stores put them out in front to like start people from loitering. Oh, is it oh, is it like a high-pitched noise?
SPEAKER_03It's just a noise, or is it coming from a device that's being used on the like a like a mosquito catcher or something like that?
SPEAKER_02I think it might be like a security system. Oh, interesting. But I hear it, and every time Sarah and I walk by the house, we'll hear this me, and I go, Do you hear that? And she's like, No. And I'm like, Maybe you're a misfit, man.
SPEAKER_03Dude, maybe you hear things other people don't hear. And all they're saying is, really high-pitched noise. I'm like, Yeah. It's like, oh my god, unfinished business sounds terrible. That'll be the bleep sound if you have to bleep anything. That's interesting. I don't know that I've heard that. Maybe you do have something. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe you hear something on a different level that people can't. I don't know. Maybe you do. This doesn't make me feel better. I'm trying to make you sound like a superhero.
SPEAKER_02Okay, no, I like that. Use it to your advantage somehow. Yeah, because if I hear any form of advice at one point, like go to the mountain.
SPEAKER_03I get powers, I build in and they will come. That'll be it. Um what profession other than your own would you like to attempt? Attempt. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Attempt.
SPEAKER_03That's interesting that it just says attempt. Not even. I mean, I guess try.
SPEAKER_02Attempt. Hmm.
SPEAKER_03I think they're kind of assuming you will fail at it in a way. Try or fail.
SPEAKER_02You know, the world of stunts sounds pretty cool.
SPEAKER_03Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_02Or even That's a great answer. Yeah, like that's cool. Yeah. I did martial arts from like most of my life up until like college. I I got very busy. What'd you do? Uh I did Kenpo. Taekwondo.
SPEAKER_03Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, man. I got to Black Belt and then I stopped because two.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah? Fuck yeah. Let's fucking spar someday, dude. Three. Two. One. Yeah. Oh my god, we'll do our own Mortal Kombat. But that's cool. So uh I don't know that that that form as well.
SPEAKER_02But like Kenpo, it's uh it's it was actually invented from farm tools. So it was like both staff came from people that would hold the like the the the crates of water like on each side and um so like a lot of farm tools up until it's very like um there was a UFC fighter that was known for Kempo early on. Chuck Liddell. Chuck Liddell's name. I think that's a name. She was a Kenpo fighter, and they're more uh on their feet, not on the ground fighter. And it's more like brutal, where it's like a dude's trying to take your wallet, you break his arm, you claw them in the eyes, you hit them in the throat, and then you get out of it. Yeah, it's very like end it and leave.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and getting away. Right. If you can get away, get away. If you can't, this is what you will use. And once you have an out, go.
SPEAKER_02Do you find, I know I'm gonna ask you a question. Do you find that martial arts has given you a discipline in life that yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yes. W without a doubt. And doing it early on in life too. So I had a friend, I had a friend, John Malfitano, if you're listening, man. It's been a while. Let's hang out, man. Uh, he got me into it. He was one of my best friends growing up. Um, and uh he was a black belt in Taekwondo by the time he was in second grade. Oh my god it was fucking nuts. Wow. Um, but he inspired me to get into it because I thought that was just so cool. Yeah um and it yeah, it taught me like everything about discipline. Um that and my father bringing us there, and my dad was also just an extremely disciplined individual. Uh, but that definitely the rigor of just like going to do something that is hard is not necessarily something I enjoyed. Yeah, it was very exhausting, yeah, but it was probably the best shape I've ever been in in my life.
SPEAKER_02And it makes you a person like I I feel safer out in the world.
SPEAKER_03Knowing that, like if someone comes at me, like I would be sloppy, I'm sure. You can always get caught by surprise. But the thing is, like, I know what to do. It's funny, actually. Now that I'm saying this, I will know what to do in the future forever now. Now that I've been in a fight. Oh. I think I've told this story before. I don't know if I should tell this whole story. I'll I'll tell a part of it. Um all this to say, I got in a fight and someone pulled a knife. It was very scary. And I stopped myself from following my instinct. What was your instinct? My instinct was to kick him. Okay. And to or to kick his hand as I saw him pulling it out. And I stopped myself. And then he swiped at my friend and he hit him in the arm. Thankfully, the knife was dull. It was he was just using it to intimidate, and he it was very st this man was incredibly stupid because he lost his leverage by doing that. Okay. Because he was a so to so there there's context. He was he and uh this person that he was with, are uh the the attackers were choking someone on the street in New York City in broad daylight, not broad daylight, it was at night, but in a public area. Me and my friend intervened and uh we overpowered him quick pretty quickly, and then he pulled a knife. And then he it was one of those things where I I dropped my instinct to to hit because I didn't want to hurt somebody. But in that moment I realized oh wow, he could have hurt my friend. Like he successfully hit him. Right. And it could have been way worse. It could have been worse, yeah. And I really wish the moment I had done that, I just followed through on what I was taught and I didn't. But now that I know that that's something that happens, like there's just like do not hesitate.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's that that that one like it's split moment decision.
SPEAKER_02Where like yes, martial arts does tell you to try to avoid conflict, but once you're there, you can't.
SPEAKER_03Oh, and we were boxed in where the area we were into. It was like part of this, uh it was part of a restaurant. It was like outdoor seating. Okay. But it was like it was boxed off, so we were essentially enclosed, so there was no way to get away. Also, it was there with my friend. Yeah, and it's like I'm not running away and abandoning my friend. I'm not gonna do that. Um but it was a pretty intense experience, but I am weirdly glad I've had it because now I know if I am ever, I hope, knock on wood, I uh if that I'm never in another fight. But if I am, I'm not gonna hesitate to like do what I know is going to disfuse the situation. Because I'm trained in it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Exactly.
SPEAKER_02You know, in Kenpo they have a saying that I I just I love. It's it's the I think it's basically the mantra, which is uh I come to you with empty hands. I pray that I will not have to use them. But if my family, my life, or my uh you know friends are in jeopardy, these are my weapons. Yeah. And it's that like karate is a treasure that should be oh wow, I still remember it. Karate is a sacred treasure that should be kept hidden from view. But a similar thing. But if my blah bla family honor, you know, if my thing, these these are my weapons, karate.
SPEAKER_03So it's just it's very uh but it's I mean it's it's interesting now, like it's interesting that we're talking about this because like my mind just immediately goes to everything going on in this country and just like how devastating certain things are and how it's very easy for us to say like def how to defend yourself, yeah. Is like we won't hesitate to do that, but we're in a system now where if you do attack I'm speaking, I'm talking about ice, I'll just be perfectly honest, and the violence that they put through and attack like fighting back is such a different recourse. Yeah, it's it's I I'd never want to condone violence, but it's like what i i it it goes back to this tenet of like I'm coming to you not being violent, but if you're being violent towards my family, what do you expect? Yeah like what do you expect? Right. And I think there's just a complete and utter lack of regard for that understanding. Yeah when your loved ones are being thrown down by complete strangers, uh how do you expect them to restrain themselves from trying to protect them? It's just so ridiculous to me. So I I just felt I needed to be clear about that. Yeah, totally. Because it can be very easy in situations where you're not dealing with law enforcement, where it's just other people being fucking stupid and causing harm. But uh something to think about, folks. Anyway, let's move on. What profession would you not like to do? Ice agents.
SPEAKER_00ICE agents.
SPEAKER_03Uh uh.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh I anything that involves sitting down for long extended periods of time, I feel that. I can't do. I just can't. I like a desk job, I could I could I it would kill me. Yeah. It would kill me. And not even because it's like it's not fulfilling or it wouldn't pay well or anything like that.
SPEAKER_03It is physically demanding to sit at a desk for nine hours five days a week.
SPEAKER_02That's a long time or even like here, like I probably shifted my position a couple of times.
SPEAKER_03Like, I think this is also the worst fucking couch. We are in the process of getting rid of this motherfucking couch. Where uh, but yeah, no, I feel that. Sitting for long periods of time, it's like it, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It just it it might I I wish that during school I could have paced my tests because I think I would have done a lot better if I'd like a clipboard. Literally, but that's back and forth.
SPEAKER_03That's a I love that idea. Yeah. If you want to walk around, that's actually I love that. I wish we had maybe they'd be like, it shouldn't be like look over your people. It's like fine, put me in a room. But how can I do that? If the one dude walking around was just like, but if they have if they allow it for you, they'd allow it for everybody. Everybody's just walking in a circle. Yeah. Last question. Music stops in your chair. Shit, shit, shit. Last question. If heaven exists, what would you like to hear God say when you arrive at the Pearly Gates?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. He's a bro.
SPEAKER_03He's just a total bro, God. Um that's a that's a very good question. A lot of people have had good answers for this one. No pressure. Sorry, I shouldn't have said that. That that was adding pressure for no reason. Pressure. Uh so St. Peter's like, Harley, good for you. You gotta tick it. Go on inside, he's waiting. Or she, or they.
SPEAKER_02I would probably wish that maybe that they would say, like, I hope you achieved everything that you wanted to get out of Earth of your life. I hope the moments that you had, whether they felt long or short, you really appreciated and lived them to the fullest. And I hope that he would be like, it's gonna continue from here. The people that you love are here, and you're gonna have those times to spend with them. That would be that would be beautiful. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03You're pretty fucking rad. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful, man. Thanks. Well, Harley. This is the end of the episode, man. That went so quick. I know, dude. It always flies by. Uh, that was so fun, dude. Oh, your work on the ground. Tony Hawk! Tony! Tony, I'm sorry! Tony Tony! Tony Hawk. Well, um, got anything you're working on right now or anything coming out that you can talk about? Behind uh NDA.
SPEAKER_02Uh okay, so I have I've got um I've got a film coming out at some point that I worked on. Uh I'm wearing a mask. You won't see my face, but you'll hear me. Classic. Uh I did that for the blacklist too. I was like in a gas mask. Really?
SPEAKER_03Oh shit, we didn't talk about blacklist. Uh we we can talk about it some other time. We exactly. Yeah, exactly. Uh, but that's fucking great, man. Yeah. So do you have any idea when that you don't know when it comes out or anything?
SPEAKER_02When it's coming out, I think that it's going into the festival process, and I think they'll probably do a showing either in New York or Philly. I think that's when they're talking about it. But it's a really cool project. It's uh I play a small part on it. It's a sci-fi. I don't know if I could talk too much about it, but it's like psychological thriller in a I think like a post-apocalyptic kind of world, and it's the experience of the person and their memories and how they get distorted and things like that. And time is very blended through this, where like there's the past and the present and the future, and it's all blending in this weird area, and it's very, very cute. That would be pretty cool. Then I got I I I've started working with this theater company uh out in East Rockaway. It's called Strongbox Theater. Used to be a bank, used to be a big chase bank, and they've repurposed it into like their own theater, and it's beautiful.
SPEAKER_03We love hearing that. Yeah. When a bank gets turned into a theater neck or the other way around. Jesus. My old Hollywood video in my hometown turned into a bank. That was one of the status things I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_02That sucks. I loved Hollywood. Me too, man. Uh, I don't have a project coming out at the moment with them. They want me to audition for something as long as the scheduling workout, that would be really cool. But um my fiance, Sarah, I'm actually gonna plug her, is currently in the play. Uh there's three of them, and it's uh out in East Rockaway right now. And the show is great, the theater's great, there's a bar with small plates, the food's good. So if you're in Long Island, you're looking for actual good theater that's not just musicals, this is the place to go because it's straight plays and it's really cool. So amazing! Yeah, and then I got uh, you know, check out my my IMDB if you wanna I IMDB, if you want to find any anything that I've done that I can't, you know, talk about or mention. And follow my instances. You can look at them uh and stay tuned because down the line in the future, at some point soon ish, I'll be able to mention another cool NDA project. Love it.
SPEAKER_03Dude, this was so much fun. Thanks for coming, Harley. Really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_02It's been an absolute pleasure, yeah, dude.
SPEAKER_03All right, y'all. That has been this week's episode of the Working Class Acts Podcast. We'll see you next week. Bye.
